motion stability [??]

[steve hyde]

....Some of the images for my current project have some motion stability problems caused by the film moving around in the camera. What are the best post production practices for resolving this problem?

I am now building my project in Adobe Premiere, but I still have access to FCP studio 5...

What software should I use to stabalize?

Thanks in advance.

Steve

[cubsfan45]

I haven't tried this, but Film Fix from Red Giant Software has motion stability i think which works with After Effects. http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/

~Eugene
http://www.filmtransfer.com

[Andreas Wideroe]

I think VirtualDub or was it AVISynth that had a deshaker plugin? Both programs and plugins are free.

I think VideoFred can help.

[steve hyde]

....here is an example of what I'm working with:

http://www.steve-hyde.com/stability.mov

The shot was made on a tripod so all the movement is film travel.

Steve

[steve hyde]

...wow you guys are fast!

Thanks, I'll look into these options..

Steve

[johnnhud]

Download the free trial verson of Shake off Apples website. You can fix jitter and image stabilazation really easy with it.

[christoph]

The shot was made on a tripod so all the movement is film travel.

as long as it's only static shots it's really easy to get rid of the jitter, either by easy to use consumer apps (such as istabilize) or full blown compositing programms (after effects or shake et all). any image stabilisation will soften the picture though, specially if you're working in SD.

Download the free trial verson of Shake off Apples website. You can fix jitter and image stabilazation really easy with it.

i still disagree, shake is *not* easy (and that comes froms somebody who just spent the last 3 weeks working 10hours each day with this programm).. that shouldnt stop anyone from downloading the app if interested though, but be prepared to spend a few weekends scratching your head and reading the manual. once you've done that, you'll love i though ;)

++ christoph ++

[BigBeaner]

or Find a way to get to after effects pro, it has image stabilization but I never figured out how to use it correctly.

[christoph]

or Find a way to get to after effects pro, it has image stabilization but I never figured out how to use it correctly.

they are some good tutorials on the web if you're interested.
ae pro is a few hundred bucks though, so unless you need it anyway there are cheaper and easier solutions.
++ christoph ++

[mattias]

the image stabilize filter in fcp works perfectly for locked down shots. i used it in "sisten i är en skit" on the shots from the two bad carts i got. it does soften the image a little, even though the fact that i was working with a slight letterbox helped because i didn't have to zoom since jitter doesn't move the frame horizontally.

istabilize works well too but tends to "smooth" motion rather than "stabilize" it. i don't know how to explain it. everything looks steadicam shot, if you know what i'm saying.

/matt

[Daniel]

Hello Steve,

I looked the clip you have posted.

May be you can try with Steady Move Pro, it is a plug in from 2d3, that works for After FX, Combustion and Premiere Pro & Elements. (windows only)
I have heard good things about it, but haven't tested


http://www.2d3.com/html/products/steady ... rview.html

http://www.2d3.com/html/products/steady ... tions.html


For my short-feature almost all the footage was stabilized on the eQ platform inside QEffects module.
The logic is pretty simple : track one or more point, then invert that tracking data on the dve module. The image is then stabilized, that means that the image looses some part of the image upside and down and / or on the sides. as the image was stabilized.
That ws not a problem since I have shot on the 4/3 full frame of the image but knowing from the beginning that the final image was going to have a 1:1.85 aspect ratio. The neg. was scanned full frame at 2K (2048 x 1556) and after stabilisation and cropping I had the final image at 1920 x 1032 (1:1.86 in order to respect multiple of 8, on the image size for eQ stability). The image did not loose resolution with that stability process.

In your case, if you have to stabilize and still get a full 4/3 image, the image will need to be zoomed, and so you will loose some resolution.
But some softwares, like Combustion and others do a good job on re-framing.

Bye,
Daniel

[johnnhud]

I took the clip you shot and applied the image stablize to it in SHAKE. It took seriously 5 minutes and I have less than 3 hours experience with the program... Seriously, it's worth a looksee...

http://web.mac.com/johnnhud/iWeb/Site/C ... 62189.html

It would look better if the source file was higher rez, but this gives you an idea of what you could do...

[Evan Kubota]

I stabilized some shots from an H16 once because I was doing compositing - they looked fine before but were rock solid after. I used a method like Daniel describes using the motion tracker in AE.

[steve hyde]

...thanks for the thoughtful suggestions. I'll try some things and post results.
John if you want a higher rez image to play with I will gladly make one available for you to do that... Interesting results from your side by side comparison.

Steve

[christoph]

well, my hats off to you john for figuring out how to filein and fileout a clip into shake that fast (took me way longer), but here's an example from somebody with more than 3 hours of experience in shake(sorry, but couldnt help it ;)

with a high-rez source it's very easy, even fcp will prolly work with that as matt said
++ christoph ++