Am I overly suspicious or is this a scam?

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Am I overly suspicious or is this a scam?

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Got this email today
Dear ,



Filmaka.com :This is for the information for all film professionals.

From the producers and financers of 'Bend it Like Beckham,' 'Buena Vista Social Club,' 'Kill Bill 2,' and 'Hero,' comes the Filmaka.com contest! Filmaka.com is a new contest site where filmmakers get to submit their short films for viewing, voting, and selection. The winner of the contest receives a feature film deal with the some of the world's best known independent producers at Filmaka.com.

You may begin uploading your films on December 15th – but you can log on now to find out the theme of the contest. All are invited to submit their short films based on the contest theme – no longer than 3 minutes – at the Entry Level. The top 15 filmmakers from the Entry Level will win $500 and a chance to move to the Jury Level where you get $1000 to make a new short. The Jury Level films will be viewed and voted on by an industry panel including actors Colin Firth & Bill Pullman and directors Neil LaBute, John Madden, and Paul Schrader. First place at the Jury Level wins $3500 and second place wins $1500. Both move up to the Finals Level, where you're in the running to win a feature film deal!

This is the only contest that presents an opportunity to filmmakers by filmmakers. You may upload your films beginning December 15th until December 23rd. Log onto http://www.filmaka.com for complete contest rules and deadlines. May the best director win!

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p291 ... ilmaka.jpg

Regards,

Filmaka Team
Dunno - it just seemed like too big a thing to just come out of the blue, and with such poor English too - I wouldn't mind betting they're just phishing for personal details - but maybe I'm wrong - any thoughts anyone? I'm not even going to click on the link in case of trojans etc

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Re: Am I overly suspicious or is this a scam?

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Both move up to the Finals Level, where you're in the running to win a feature film deal!
The industry doesn't work that way. Producers don't want or need unknown amateurs directing their films.
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Janne wrote:Producers don't want or need unknown amateurs directing their films.
um, maybe that's why they target "filmmakers" and only give this deal to the "winner"? i'm not saying it's legit but you're reading an awful lot into it i think.

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Post by Joe Lopez »

With contests like these, you need to take a close look at what kind of rights you're giving up to the company running the contest by submitting your entry. Sometimes, the mere submission of an entry gives the people running the contest all rights to the work you're submitting. A lot of photography contests are scams by which companies acquire stock images without payment of a dime to the people who created those images. I know nothing about this contest (or the people running it). It may well be on the up and up. You should read the fine print before sending anything in.
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Post by Janne »

What does "a feature film deal!" mean? Who writes the script? Anyone can give money for anyone to make a film. Sure, that's possible. A what kind of film, and what kind of distribution for the film is another thing.

You don't have to agree with this, but in my opinion, if you like competitions then it is for you. If you just want to make a good film, it may be better to spend your time on writing a script. Writing a good short (20 mins or so) usually takes a year or two years.
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Janne wrote:What does "a feature film deal!" mean?
i'm guessing it says in the "complete rules and regulations".
You don't have to agree with this, but in my opinion, if you like competitions then it is for you. If you just want to make a good film, it may be better to spend your time on writing a script.
and then what? in my opinion and experience *all* film funding and financing is based on competition. if you think your project will be funded based on a script without having to show your previous work and without being up for selection against several others i think you're sadly mistaken.

and again, i'm not saying this one is legit, i've no idea.

/matt
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mattias wrote:and then what?
Then show the script and your previous works for producers.
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Post by lunni »

Janne wrote: Writing a good short (20 mins or so) usually takes a year or two years.
Highly talented screen writers are able to write a good short in one year, for the rest of us it takes two years.

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Re: Am I overly suspicious or is this a scam?

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No this is not a spam it is a legit site offering great opportunities for film makers i am preparing for the first competition stuck in traffic.




Scotness wrote:Got this email today
Dear ,



Filmaka.com :This is for the information for all film professionals.

From the producers and financers of 'Bend it Like Beckham,' 'Buena Vista Social Club,' 'Kill Bill 2,' and 'Hero,' comes the Filmaka.com contest! Filmaka.com is a new contest site where filmmakers get to submit their short films for viewing, voting, and selection. The winner of the contest receives a feature film deal with the some of the world's best known independent producers at Filmaka.com.

You may begin uploading your films on December 15th – but you can log on now to find out the theme of the contest. All are invited to submit their short films based on the contest theme – no longer than 3 minutes – at the Entry Level. The top 15 filmmakers from the Entry Level will win $500 and a chance to move to the Jury Level where you get $1000 to make a new short. The Jury Level films will be viewed and voted on by an industry panel including actors Colin Firth & Bill Pullman and directors Neil LaBute, John Madden, and Paul Schrader. First place at the Jury Level wins $3500 and second place wins $1500. Both move up to the Finals Level, where you're in the running to win a feature film deal!

This is the only contest that presents an opportunity to filmmakers by filmmakers. You may upload your films beginning December 15th until December 23rd. Log onto http://www.filmaka.com for complete contest rules and deadlines. May the best director win!

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p291 ... ilmaka.jpg

Regards,

Filmaka Team
Dunno - it just seemed like too big a thing to just come out of the blue, and with such poor English too - I wouldn't mind betting they're just phishing for personal details - but maybe I'm wrong - any thoughts anyone? I'm not even going to click on the link in case of trojans etc

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About Filmaka.com revenue sharing model

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Did someone had a concern about their work being acquired for too less , I went through the terms and conditions of filmaka.com it offers a revenue sharing model , if you work is beign used somewhere else,

Therefore you get a share of earnings if your video clip is being used anywhere else than filmaka.com.

Will big producers give a chance to amateur directors yes why not, These days everybody is looking for new talent.

And everybody is running for short entertainment instead of spendiing 2 hours watching a movie.

I think time for short media entertainment is here and everybody wants a share of it.
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Post by timdrage »

Another suspect aspect of this is i've seen it spammed on a load of random film related messageboards with a dishonest "Hey guys i found this cool film competition lol :-)"-style post even tho it's clearly posted by people working for the organisers.

Not to mention it always raises flags for me when something is criticised on a messageboard and immediately someone who's never posted before rushes to the defense in semi-literate and somewhat aggressive manner. :roll:
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Re: Am I overly suspicious or is this a scam?

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Janne wrote:
Both move up to the Finals Level, where you're in the running to win a feature film deal!
The industry doesn't work that way. Producers don't want or need unknown amateurs directing their films.
I beg to differ.

Producers are always looking for the next flavor of the month, being amatuers or professionals.

Robert Rodriguez, Kevin Smith, Ed Burns, James Mangold, Myrick and Sanchez, Richard Linklater.....

Hollywood is dying. I can't recall one original movie coming out of there in the last couple of decades. Producers are ticks. They need unknown amatuers to feed off of now. They scower film festivals looking.

All it takes is that one break-though short or movie to launch a career.
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Super8rules wrote:Robert Rodriguez, Kevin Smith, Ed Burns, James Mangold, Myrick and Sanchez, Richard Linklater.....
My point exactly. Hollywood wasn't interested in them until they become kind of famous.
Super8rules wrote:I can't recall one original movie coming out of there in the last couple of decades.
Sounds like they're lacking for good screenplays. You have much better chances if you can write.
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Re: Am I overly suspicious or is this a scam?

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Janne wrote:
Super8rules wrote:Robert Rodriguez, Kevin Smith, Ed Burns, James Mangold, Myrick and Sanchez, Richard Linklater.....
My point exactly. Hollywood wasn't interested in them until they become kind of famous.
Super8rules wrote:I can't recall one original movie coming out of there in the last couple of decades.
Sounds like they're lacking for good screenplays. You have much better chances if you can write.

No, they weren't famous at all. Rodriguez was a nobody when he shot EL MARIACHI as was Kevin Smith when he shot CLERKS, and Ed Burns with his BROTHERS MCMULLEN.

It was their independent movies that got them noticed and gave them instant clout. You need to read REBEL WITHOUT A CREW. It's Robert Rodriguez's diary of his EL MARIACHI experience.

How he shot the movie on $7000.00 in Mexico, edited it on video, drove to Los Angeles to sell it to the Mexican video market, but dropped off the trailer to a guy at a talent agency who just happened to LOVE it and it all started from there. He was an absolute nobody, and because of this one film, he became a major Hollywood player.
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That's what I tried to say. Hollywood start fund for their films after these filmmakers had become famous.
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