Budget 70DR

Post by **flatwood** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:15 am

The talk about the 70DR lately got me interested in them and I just picked this one up on ebay. It hasnt been delivered yet but I paid for it last night.

It's a beater but I only paid around $27 for it. They claim it works but I have my doubts. Can anyone ID those lenses on it???

Post by **Blin** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:28 am

I'm not sure what those lenses are but it appears the corresponding lenses on the reflex viewfinder are missing.

Post by **flatwood** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:54 am

Blin wrote:...it appears the corresponding lenses on the reflex viewfinder are missing.

Thanks, I thought so. Wonder how hard they are to find???

Post by **dirb9** » Tue May 30, 2006 5:04 am

The lenses on it look like they were maybe from an older 70, one of the ones without a turret. The single lensed Bell & Howell 70s had ixed viewfinders that couldn't use auxillary lenses, so if someone transferred them to a new camera, they would not have the viewfinder lenses to transfer.

Post by **flatwood** » Tue May 30, 2006 5:20 am

dirb9 wrote:The lenses on it look like they were maybe from an older 70, one of the ones without a turret.

Thanks. Im obviously ignorant about these cameras. If I cant find any parts for it Ill have to send it to Mitch or use it as a prop in a film.

Post by **Evan Kubota** » Tue May 30, 2006 5:30 am

I have a 25mm objective that I received and have no use for. My Filmo isn't the viewfinder objective model and I won't be getting one. Let me know if you want it.

You might want to pick up some higher quality C mount lenses. Non-reflex Switars are great. TTH are also good.

Post by **flatwood** » Tue May 30, 2006 5:34 am

Evan Kubota wrote:I have a 25mm objective that I received and have no use for. My Filmo isn't the viewfinder objective model and I won't be getting one. Let me know if you want it.

Thats very good of you to offer. I better try to take you up on it. Thanks.

Post by **steve hyde** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:09 am

...hey take a trip to the bottom of this page:

http://www.sheltoncomm.com/cmountlense.html#viewfinder

you might find some good viewfinders and optical glass.

I bought a lens hood from this guy and he sent it to me very fast...

hope this helps,

Steve

Post by **flatwood** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:57 pm

steve hyde wrote:...hey take a trip to the bottom of this page:...

Thanks for the link Steve, Ill check it out right now.

Post by **Nigel** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:49 pm

Good score...

It should be a pretty fun camera.

You could always buy an old zoom with the reflex viwer. They are pretty cheap and come in everything from 9.5-95 to 15-150.

http://cgi.ebay.com/angenieux-zoom-16mm ... dZViewItem

Good Luck

Post by **flatwood** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:56 pm

Nigel wrote:Good score.......You could always buy an old zoom with the reflex viewer. They are pretty cheap and come in everything from 9.5-95 to 15-150.

Good idea Nigel, thanks for the suggestion.

-=tabb

Post by **steve hyde** » Tue May 30, 2006 5:54 pm

...I have an Ang 17-68 lens with a viewtube for my DR - nice for reflex focusing, but keep in mind that you will need a C to bayo (I think its bayo) adaptor and you will also need a low profile door to accomodate the viewtube. Modifications and parts can be had from ICE MTE in Florida...

I'm just becoming familiar with my DR. I just shot my third and fourth roll with it and dropped the film at the lab this morning - so I'm still learning it, but I think the Filmo is a widely underestimated camera. The fact that you bought yours for 25.00 USD is part of the reason the camera is underestimated. Cinemachinery is supposed to be expensive right? A camera that cheap can't possibly make good images right?? The reason Filmos are cheap has nothing to do with the quality of the camera and everything to do with economies of scale. There are so many Filmos in the used camera market and so little demand that the price has been reduced to next to nothing. I spent more money on mine, but mine was one of the unused ones from the last manufacturing round.

Blow the dust out of it - put some oil in it and put some good glass on it and you will be in business..

Steve

Post by **flatwood** » Tue May 30, 2006 6:09 pm

steve hyde wrote:...I have an Ang 17-68 lens with a viewtube for my DR - nice for reflex focusing, but keep in mind that you will need a C to bayo (I think its bayo) adaptor.....

Thanks for the great information. You know, I think I have a bayo to C adapter in the studio left over from another cam I had at some point. Let me check.

Post by **Freya** » Tue May 30, 2006 6:47 pm

flatwood wrote:The talk about the 70DR lately got me interested in them and I just picked this one up on ebay. It hasnt been delivered yet but I paid for it last night.

It's a beater but I only paid around $27 for it. They claim it works but I have my doubts. Can anyone ID those lenses on it???

It looks like a great score and I'm almost willing to bet it will work just fine. The filmo is one of the few cameras that just keeps going, you just feed it sewing machine oil in the little holes and it works lovely.

If it doesn't work then maybe you can even get it serviced. Tracking down lenses in c mount can be a real pain however. It took me a number of years to get a fairly basic set of primes and I had to really keep an eagle eye out. Everybody wants those c-mounts!!

love

Freya

Post by **Freya** » Tue May 30, 2006 6:53 pm

steve hyde wrote:
I'm just becoming familiar with my DR. I just shot my third and fourth roll with it and dropped the film at the lab this morning - so I'm still learning it, but I think the Filmo is a widely underestimated camera. The fact that you bought yours for 25.00 USD is part of the reason the camera is underestimated. Cinemachinery is supposed to be expensive right? A camera that cheap can't possibly make good images right?? The reason Filmos are cheap has nothing to do with the quality of the camera and everything to do with economies of scale. There are so many Filmos in the used camera market and so little demand that the price has been reduced to next to nothing. I spent more money on mine, but mine was one of the unused ones from the last manufacturing round.

Steve

I think it's partly the amount that are out there, but also that It's non reflex (that's a big one for an awful lot of people), it sounds like an industrial sewing machine and it doesn't have the words bolex on it.

Obviously the quality of the images will be mostly down to the lenses attached and the film inside, and sadly the person operating the camera too.

What's really special about them tho, is the fact they just keep on ticking.

Take care of your filmo and it will take care of you!

love

Freya

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