Use of a Static Vac (Kinetronics) for WorkPrinterXP Work...

[tmoceri]

and cleaning?

I'm striving for the best, dust free transfers possible with my Workprinter. I was looking at one of these...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Kinetronics-Film-Cl ... dZViewItem

to use inline with my cleaning process and then possibly when the film is going from the reel to through the workprinter (if I can some how rig it).

Is this worth while? Any potential damage to the film or down sides? Anyone doing this?

Thanks!

-Tom

[Carlos 8mm]

How does it works?

If you want dust free transfers, try to enlarge the gate of your Projector/workprinter from the bottom to the top.
This way the dust/hairs are retained in the extremes of the gate, without interfering the projected film frame (after cleaning the film, of course).

[MovieStuff]

How does it works?

If you want dust free transfers, try to enlarge the gate of your Projector/workprinter from the bottom to the top.
This way the dust/hairs are retained in the extremes of the gate, without interfering the projected film frame (after cleaning the film, of course).

All WorkPrinters already have an enlarged gate.

Roger

[tmoceri]

How does it works?

The film runs between the bristols and the static charge sends the dust running for it's life. I just want to make sure it is film friendly (as advertisted).

[fogo]

I dont mean to criticise your English in any way, but what you said brought a great big smile to my face.... 'Bristols' in English English also means a pair of Breasts!!! That electric charge sounds very interesting! Hope you see the joke!

ps I think you meant to say bristles

[Janne]

The new ones (also newer models) cost about $600.

Check out the interesting video:
http://www.kinetronics-europe.de/seiten ... icvac.html

http://www.kinetronics.com/cgi-local/So ... 1154073928

[John_Pytlak]

Ionized air is conductive, allowing any static holding dirt on the film to discharge. You definitely want the model that vacuums away any dirt loosened.

Also consider the use of Particle Transfer Roller (PTR) cleaning, which is very effective in removing particulate dirt without the use of solvents:

http://digitalcontentproducer.com/pr/vi ... eives_epa/

Eastman Kodak Company received the 2003 Stratospheric Ozone Protection Award from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency in recognition of Kodak's commitment to reducing ozone-depleting chemicals through the development of Particle Transfer Roller (PTR) technology for cleaning motion picture film. The Stratospheric Ozone Protection Award, presented as part of Earth Day celebrations worldwide, recognizes a commitment to helping prevent the release of ozone-depleting chemicals. Kodak was one of only four companies worldwide honored in 2003.

"Kodak has shown you can achieve top-notch motion-picture film quality while improving environmental standards," said Drusilla Hufford, director of the EPA's Global Programs Division. "You can enjoy your next film knowing Kodak's development of PTRs has eliminated the use of several hundred thousand pounds of ozone-depleting substances over the past 12 years."

The Particle Transfer Roller was developed by Kodak in 1989. It is a specially molded soft polyurethane roller that captures dirt and dust through contact adhesion without the use of solvents. Prior to 1990, nearly all motion picture film was cleaned offline in ultrasonic cleaning machines that used a solvent known as 1,1,1-trichloroethane for particulate removal.

Kodak developed and promoted use of PTR film cleaners that could remove dirt and dust from film online during conventional film printing at labs and while motion pictures are projected at cinemas. As motion picture film glides over the PTR, dirt and dust from the film stick to the roller. The process improves motion picture film quality while eliminating the use of environmentally damaging solvents. Over the past 12 years, PTRs have supplanted 1,1,1-trichloroethane as the primary method for cleaning motion picture film worldwide.

"The PTR innovation helps protect the high quality of our film product at theaters while also protecting the environment," said Eric Rodli, Kodak's president of the Entertainment Imaging division. "The PTR technology that we developed and shared worldwide is characterized by what's not there--dirt and dust on movie film--just as the stratosphere is protected by what's not there-ozone-depleting solvents."

Kodak has disclosed the technology to customers and competitors for their unrestricted use. FPC, a Kodak subsidiary, sells PTRs to motion picture labs, telecine facilities, and theater operators. PTRs are used in thousands of movie theaters around the world, including most IMAX theaters. The solvent-free process has eliminated the use of several hundred thousand pounds of ozone-depleting substances. Kodak estimates that when combined with the use of CFC-free refrigeration system upgrades in film manufacturing plants, the company eliminated more than one million pounds of ozone-depleting substances.

"It's remarkable that such a simple, compact innovation has had such a positive environmental impact worldwide," said Jonathan Banks, President of BHP, Inc., a leading manufacturer of motion picture film printing equipment sold to film laboratories. "Kodak's technology is a step forward for the entire motion-picture film industry."

The PTRs themselves are environmentally friendly in that they can be washed with water and reused once they accumulate dirt. One set of PTRs can clean an estimated 20 million feet of motion-picture print film. PTRs are generally only discarded once they harden, become physically damaged, or lose cleaning efficiency.

[tmoceri]

I dont mean to criticise your English in any way, but what you said brought a great big smile to my face.... 'Bristols' in English English also means a pair of Breasts!!! That electric charge sounds very interesting! Hope you see the joke!

ps I think you meant to say bristles

No I meant "Bristols". I want to get all the English English Breasts off my film!

[Janne]

You definitely want the model that vacuums away any dirt loosened.

The Kinetronics device has a fan on the back.

[audadvnc]

I dont mean to criticise your English in any way, but what you said brought a great big smile to my face.... 'Bristols' in English English also means a pair of Breasts!!! That electric charge sounds very interesting! Hope you see the joke!

ps I think you meant to say bristles

No I meant "Bristols". I want to get all the English English Breasts off my film!

A few decades back a major lingerie manufacturer released inflatable bras. Perhaps the Kinotronic fan is to keep those retro Bristols full?