Call for concrete suggestions re: super 8 society

Post by **flatwood** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:12 pm

Id like to see S8S promoting films that use super 8 for at least a part of the production.

Post by **Mitch Perkins** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:40 am

flatwood wrote:Id like to see S8S promoting films that use super 8 for at least a part of the production.

Yes, anything and everything S8 could stand a little promotion to those not already in the choir. And nothing would do that as successfully as good movies made in whole or in part on S8.

Mitch

Post by **ECNtoo** » Wed May 03, 2006 7:28 am

i noticed that nobody has posted to this topic for awhile and wondering if the idea is dead. well i thought of an idea that i thought would be a benefit to the promotion of super8.

there are some people making 'new' episodes of the old star trek episodes. they can be found at newvoyages.com

the interest in new voyages has been absolutly massive. im not sure the folks over there would immediatly understand why they should soot on film but they might get the idea if the right people have a chat with them. imagine the colours of the production and the feel of it if it were shot in 100D.

what im suggesting is that mabye we try and get them to shoot the next episode on super8. i think it would be a really great way to promote the format, especially if they put a spiel about it on their site, mentioned it in the credits...whatever.

if we were to try and help this to happen i guess the next question is, is there anybody near these people that have the technical ability and mabye the equipment? im doubting but hoping...

any thoughts?

Post by **etimh** » Wed May 03, 2006 8:21 am

ECNtoo wrote:there are some people making 'new' episodes of the old star trek episodes. they can be found at newvoyages.com

Man, trekkies are total NUTS! Very cool.

Here's the link:

http://www.startreknewvoyages.com

Good idea about trying to get them to shoot on film, ECNtoo. But, the sound issue might be more trouble to these folks than its worth. Looks like they've got everything worked out, if you get my drift.

Tim

Post by **ECNtoo** » Wed May 03, 2006 8:43 am

i do hear you, hence why we'd have to really be there for all tech support...as in get them a sync camera that is blimped (i doubt they want to do looped sound although they probably should). id even consider chucking in a couple of bucks...for if we all put in a 20 we might get it done if you know what i mean. it would be a fantastic vehicle for super8 in my opinion. the question would them ofcourse be neg or reversal!

Post by **ECNtoo** » Thu May 04, 2006 5:25 pm

...that is unless nobodys really interested in promoting the format like it was implied....

Post by **Mitch Perkins** » Fri May 05, 2006 12:17 am

ECNtoo wrote:...that is unless nobodys really interested in promoting the format like it was implied....

Certainly there are people interested in promoting the format...whether or not such an animal as a S8S will exist, time will tell.

How about a variation on your idea where the Trekkie dudes shoot *some* stuff on S8 - flashbacks etc., as is already being done in other shows...I think. That way sound is not an issue.

Mitch

Post by **ECNtoo** » Fri May 05, 2006 2:35 am

yeah i have no problem with that. i even suggested that mabye exteriors could be shot on stock. the thing is, if there is to be the promotion of super then it will take numbers to promote it. these guys are doing there thing and would need some convincing, help etc to do some work on supr8. i guess id just like to see super8 promoters be somewhat proactice wich is what i thought this thread was promoting, and then it all went quiet. their last episode had 20 million downloads, hence why i thought it would be a great idea to jump on their bandwagon. just to suggest that people use super8 isnt gonna get the job done.

Post by **flatwood** » Fri May 05, 2006 4:41 am

ECNtoo wrote:....hence why i thought it would be a great idea to jump on their bandwagon. just to suggest that people use super8 isnt gonna get the job done.

This sounds like it might be a good promotion for one of the film manufacturers. We're not sure what we're going to do with S8S yet.

Post by **Mitch Perkins** » Fri May 05, 2006 6:21 am

ECNtoo wrote:yeah i have no problem with that. i even suggested that mabye exteriors could be shot on stock. the thing is, if there is to be the promotion of super then it will take numbers to promote it. these guys are doing there thing and would need some convincing, help etc to do some work on supr8. i guess id just like to see super8 promoters be somewhat proactice wich is what i thought this thread was promoting, and then it all went quiet. their last episode had 20 million downloads, hence why i thought it would be a great idea to jump on their bandwagon. just to suggest that people use super8 isnt gonna get the job done.

The thread went quiet waiting for you.

Maybe show the producers a list of shows/movies with S8 content. Clips of the S8 in the shows/movies...

Emphasize the bottom line, technically - simple and cheap point and shoot. Cameras that work with stocks available...200T!

Support could be available on an as-needed basis for each production/scene [daily] Does an S8S own/rent gear...for educational purposes?

What do we do with the $?? X $20 to make it happen, do you think?

Great idea.

Mitch

Post by **ECNtoo** » Fri May 05, 2006 10:27 pm

id think any promotion of super8 will undoubtabky directly or indirectly become support for a film manufacturer. hopefully so if it sells them more product.

i think helping out productions is the way to go, but i think to promote the format will actually involve persuading them to take it on. with the 'if it aint broke, dont fix it' mentality most people shooting video either cant afford 16mm and dont think super8 can cut it or dont get why using film is a benefit.

it seems the idea of the society has a bit of a vague direction concerning its purpose. i just hope its concept doesnt die on the vine.

Post by **flatwood** » Fri May 05, 2006 10:42 pm

ECNtoo wrote:....i think helping out productions is the way to go, but i think to promote the format will actually involve persuading them to take it on. .....

That's a good point.

We've got http://super8society.com for use. Right now theres a bunch of sample logos that we're testing out. Theres still over a month left to submit a logo.

Post by **ECNtoo** » Sun May 07, 2006 3:49 am

thanks falt, now what can we do about it?

Post by **reflex** » Sun May 07, 2006 5:36 am

We've got http://super8society.com for use. Right now theres a bunch of sample logos that we're testing out. Theres still over a month left to submit a logo.

It's nice to have a logo, but I suspect that most people need an incentive to join a society. At this rate it will take a month to choose a logo, another few months to figure out the aims of the society, and a couple more to implement some of them. By then, most people will have lost interest and moved on.

Perhaps it's worth arranging discounts with labs, telecine services, rental houses, and so on? Heck, it might even be possible to arrange a discount with Kodak and Fuji. That provides a solid financial incentive for membership - and once the group gets a reasonable number of members, the next logical thing would be a regular newsletter, film screenings and contests, and potentially even the occasional get-together.

Post by **ECNtoo** » Sun May 07, 2006 6:30 am

im with reflex. all of that can be worked on at the same time to form the society. and while maintaining those objectives and adding the pestering of other productions to use super8 in the forcfeull and bullying techniques i suggested, then id think we would have a winner. why not just have the membership of this site have the option of being paying or non-paying. that would be a great way to get a decent membership fast wich is the very thing that is needed to push a society allong. so two stages here...what does people think?