Just bought my first case of film

Post by **johnnhud** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:25 am

I just ordered my first case of Film from Kodak. 20 reels in all. It cost about $160 plus shipping. I ordered TriX because I have a project I'm planning on shooting about 5 reels for in two weeks.

Should I put this Fiim right into the deep freeze when I get it? Or does it matter? I'm probably going to shoot all 20 reels within the next 4 months.

Also, wish me luck, I'm going to be finding out which one of my camera's takes the best shots as none of them have had any film in them for 25+ years, I'll post my results on here.

Post by **John_Pytlak** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:31 am

johnnhud wrote:I just ordered my first case of Film from Kodak. 20 reels in all. It cost about $160 plus shipping. I ordered TriX because I have a project I'm planning on shooting about 5 reels for in two weeks.

Should I put this Fiim right into the deep freeze when I get it? Or does it matter? I'm probably going to shoot all 20 reels within the next 4 months.

Also, wish me luck, I'm going to be finding out which one of my camera's takes the best shots as none of them have had any film in them for 25+ years, I'll post my results on here.

No need to freeze the film. Kodak normally stores raw stock at about 55F. Best to refrigerate, but even cool room temperature is fine for B&W films stored a few months before use:

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/suppo ... 5.12&lc=en

Post by **steve hyde** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:02 am

...yeah, I don't know why people "freeze" their film. This makes no sense to me. Film does not like temperature fluctuations that is why it is a best practice to *store* it in a refridgerator at 55f where the tempearture will remain constant.

Another practice that I find strange is when people put the film back into the refridgerator after they shoot it. This can result in condensation on the film since it is no longer in the foil.

If I understand correctly, (this is what the guys at my local pro camera shop told me) color films are more sensitive to temperature changes. Black and white film should be fine out of the fridge unless you don't plan to shoot it for a couple years.

Steve

Website · Post by **BigBeaner** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:36 am

Johnn,

Best of luck to you my friend! I guess representing the whole here but any questions we will always be of help. BTW, next week you should be getting a finished version of the music video!

Post by **Joe Gioielli** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:31 am

"...yeah, I don't know why people "freeze" their film. This makes no sense to me. Film does not like temperature fluctuations that is why it is a best practice to *store* it in a refridgerator at 55f where the tempearture will remain constant. "

Help me out, Steve. Why would the fridge have a more stable temp than a freezer? Considering that the fridge door is often opened more often than the freezer door.

Or are you implying the greater degree of change between storage and room temp (coming from the freezer) is harder on the film than from the fridge?

Thanks for you thoughts
Joe

Post by **Shion** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:06 am

Heh, I've just moved quite a bit of my film 'hoard' to my freezer in the last couple of days. So I'm keen to see where this discussion goes.

Most of it is fresh 16mm colour negative- although there is some Super8 reversal in there as well (K40, E64T, Plus-X)- and has been in my fridge for 3-6 months. My reason for moving it is that I don't intend to use it for another 3 months or so. Would I have been better off leaving it in the fridge?

Cheers,

Bon

Post by **John_Pytlak** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:50 pm

Shion wrote:Heh, I've just moved quite a bit of my film 'hoard' to my freezer in the last couple of days. So I'm keen to see where this discussion goes.

Most of it is fresh 16mm colour negative- although there is some Super8 reversal in there as well (K40, E64T, Plus-X)- and has been in my fridge for 3-6 months. My reason for moving it is that I don't intend to use it for another 3 months or so. Would I have been better off leaving it in the fridge?

Cheers,

Bon

No need to freeze raw stock if you plan to use it within a year or two. Refrigeration at about 10 Celsius is fine.

If you have opened the sealed packaging, freezing carries a risk of having excess moisture in the container form ice crystals.

Always let film warm up before using, to avoid any chance of condensation.

Post by **Shion** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:34 pm

John,

Thanks for the clarification. I guess I can move it back to the fridge and regain some of my lost freezer space.

Bon

Post by **steve hyde** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:54 pm

Joe Gioielli wrote:"...yeah, I don't know why people "freeze" their film. This makes no sense to me. Film does not like temperature fluctuations that is why it is a best practice to *store* it in a refridgerator at 55f where the tempearture will remain constant. "

Help me out, Steve. Why would the fridge have a more stable temp than a freezer? Considering that the fridge door is often opened more often than the freezer door.

Or are you implying the greater degree of change between storage and room temp (coming from the freezer) is harder on the film than from the fridge?

Thanks for you thoughts

Joe

...Kodak recommends storing films at 55 degrees F.

Post by **John_Pytlak** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:33 pm

steve hyde wrote: ...Kodak recommends storing films at 55 degrees F.

Colder is fine, but freezing is not necessary unless you want to keep film for many years. Although it greatly slows chemical changes in the film, freezing doesn't stop the fogging from ambient radiaion, and carries a risk of ice crystal damage. Most home refrigerators easily hold food and film at about 40F.

Post by **mik** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:34 am

if stored in fridge, does films have to be additionally packed ? what about humidity in fridge ? i haven't measured it, but i think its quite high...

mik

Post by **johnnhud** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:56 am

mik wrote:if stored in fridge, does films have to be additionally packed ? what about humidity in fridge ? i haven't measured it, but i think its quite high...

Should I store it with my Meats, cheeses or vegetables?

Post by **Actor** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:27 am

johnnhud wrote: Should I store it with my Meats, cheeses or vegetables?

Get a small fridge and dedicate it to just film and beer!! :twisted:

Post by **audadvnc** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:32 pm

Actor wrote:
johnnhud wrote: Should I store it with my Meats, cheeses or vegetables?
Get a small fridge and dedicate it to just film and beer!! :twisted:

Spoken like a true bachelor

Post by **John_Pytlak** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:40 pm

If the film is in its original sealed foil packaging, the relative humidity is not critical. Of course any cardboard or paper outer packaging can get moldy if you have very damp conditions.

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