Kodak Processing of Super-8 KODACHROME film ends August 1

[Shion]

Andreas
PLEASE DELETE the irrelevant posts or let me know how to do it. This is outrageous!
I can't believe you guys. You're EXPERTS in destroying topics.
Some of us would like to know what will happen to our K40 stocks and NOT if the "100D is based or not to Kodak's E100VS slide film"..
Open a new topic and discuss your concerns and leave this for some serious info from John...

Stop whining. John's original post- the one that started this thread- mentions 100D as an alternative to K40. Given that, how is Jusetan's question about 100D- and my answer to it- "irrelevant"?

Edit: And by the way, YOU were the first person in the thread to mention slides.

Bon

[hellesdonfilms]

the only problem with 100D as a replacement is that in the UK at least it is only available in 400ft rolls. my camera only takes 100ft.

[Angus]

I still think there is an EU regulation about processing being available for six months AFTER the last process-paid film expires.

Which is why the end of September made sense...that was the first date that Kodak could legally cease honouring the process-paid super 8 K40.


How times have changed...when they replaced KII with K40 and K25, a whole decade of grace was given to process the older films.

When they axed Ektachrome 160 we got about five years.

Now with K'chrome....barely five months.

[ultramarine]

Stop whining. John's original post- the one that started this thread- mentions 100D as an alternative to K40. Given that, how is Jusetan's question about 100D- and my answer to it- "irrelevant"?

Are you in drugs or something my boy?
So, you suggest, whenever someone says "I'll shoot mountains this weekend and I need some advise" the rest of us begin a conversation about Alpes...Quite sensible...

Edit: And by the way, YOU were the first person in the thread to mention slides.

John informed us about the end of processing of Kodachrome films, the closure of the Swiss Lab. In case you don't know it, in the SAME lab takes place the processing of the 35mm slides (and of course the 16mm also).
Therefore, if the lab closes where will the processing of the NOT-discontinued slide films take place? Is it so dificult to understand that there is a conjunction between Kodachrome slides and movie films?

[jimmyking]

Shion, stop accusing people!
Start a topic with your irrelevant 100D information elsewhere. We aren't interested to read it here!
This topic is about Kodachrome!

[filmbuff]

August 1, 2006 will be the last day for Kodak processing of Super-8 KODACHROME film at its lab in Switzerland. Customers who have purchased KODACHROME 16mm film with the processing costs included have until December 31, 2006 to process that film with Kodak. After that date, customers will have to seek an alternative at their own cost:

Are PK59 processing mailers still valid til August 1st?

[John_Pytlak]

Hi John. I know, its not your mistake - but:

I cannot believe it! Kodak (Germany) and Kodak (Switzerland) told everybody here officially since some weeks that processing for Kodachrome 40 in Super 8 cartridges ends end of September 2006. Now, there is another date, an earlier date of course. It's always the same since you stopped with Kodachrome 40 - everybody in your company says something different. I cannot believe this kind of bad public relations.

The Kodak people in Germany, Switzerland, and even myself were trying to be helpful, and tried to give the best information that we knew at the time. Although we are all part of that decision making process, the final date was decided at a much higher level within the company. As the person at the Kodak lab in Switzerland wrote Mr. Polzfuss, the end of processing date had been "postponed" from an even earlier date. Criticizing your sources for being a few weeks off in their information is very unfair, and makes us less likely to share preliminary information in an effort to help customers.

I know of a certain small film magazine that had "bad public relations" with some of its customers because it was unable to hold to its original schedule of publication and shipping. As you well know, some things are just beyond our control.

[christoph]

am i the only one that wonders what happened to good manners in this forum?

[John_Pytlak]

John informed us about the end of processing of Kodachrome films, the closure of the Swiss Lab. In case you don't know it, in the SAME lab takes place the processing of the 35mm slides (and of course the 16mm also).
Therefore, if the lab closes where will the processing of the NOT-discontinued slide films take place? Is it so dificult to understand that there is a conjunction between Kodachrome slides and movie films?

NO announcement has been made regarding the closing of the Kodak lab in Switzerland:

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/about ... QA06.jhtml

Q4: Does the discontinuation of processing for Kodachrome Super 8 mean that you are closing your lab in Switzerland?
A4: In line with market declines, Kodak announced plans to significantly reduce the global asset base supporting its traditional products. This announcement was driven by the fundamental, structural change in the imaging industry worldwide. Implementation of that plan continues, very much impacting Kodak's laboratory operations across the globe. However, no announcement has been made relative to the closure of the Kodak lab in Renens, Switzerland.

Likewise, there is no announcement regarding other KODACHROME films.

[Shion]

Are you in drugs or something my boy?

Sadly, no. 8O

Start a topic with your irrelevant 100D information elsewhere. We aren't interested to read it here!

I could nitpick at everything you guys have posted, but what would be the point? If you guys can't see how 100D is relevant in this thread- when the very first post mentioned it- then nothing I say will change that.

Someone else asked a (perfectly relevant) question, and I answered it as well as I could. I don't see how that's any more capable of "destroying" this topic than this ridiculous line of bickering (which I will exit out of now, having wasted far too much time on it already).

Bon

[John_Pytlak]

Are PK59 processing mailers still valid til August 1st?

Since Kodak Super-8 KODACHROME film processing ends on August 1, any Super-8 film sent in PK59 mailers must be processed by then.

[T-Scan]

Now that the beast of a K-14 process is being shut down in Aug, Kodak can focus on bringing the S-8 production back to the US and look to the future of S8, leave the past behind.

Kodak doesn't use the old RMS system anymore, but if they did, I find it hard to believe that the 100D would be more than 11.

I don't know, but someone was quik to mention the RMS of 100D being higher than 64T's 11... when I last mentioned it was finer grained than 64T. whatever the case, Ekta 100D has a grain the same or less than K40. Maybe the 160T would be almost the same grain as 100D?

[John_Pytlak]

Does "16mm" include R8 Kodachrome?

Mark

Regular-8 KODACHROME film is processed on the 16mm machine, and so will be treated as 16mm. As far as I know, almost all of the Regular-8 KODACHROME in current use has been supplied by repackaging companies, and not directly by Kodak.

[John_Pytlak]

Now that the beast of a K-14 process is being shut down in Aug, Kodak can focus on bringing the S-8 production back to the US and look to the future of S8, leave the past behind.

Kodak doesn't use the old RMS system anymore, but if they did, I find it hard to believe that the 100D would be more than 11.

I don't know, but someone was quik to mention the RMS of 100D being higher than 64T's 11... when I last mentioned it was finer grained than 64T. whatever the case, Ekta 100D has a grain the same or less than K40. Maybe the 160T would be almost the same grain as 100D?

The "single number" RMS granularity can be misleading, as it only measured the granularity for a mid-scale gray density in terms of a photopic visual response. In other words, it measured the granularity for only a single gray density.

For many years, Kodak now publishes granularity CURVES that plot the red, green, and blue granularity (sigma-d) as a function of Log Exposure, along with the corresponding sensitometric curve (D-Log E curve). This is a much more comprehensive way to evaluate granularity, as it allows analysis for various colors and exposure levels. Here is an example:

http://www.kodak.com/global/images/en/m ... 17_rms.gif

[John_Pytlak]

Accidental Double Post.