Ever seen this Minolta/Wilcam?

Post by **Rick Palidwor** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:50 am

Any information for the curious? Minolta something with 200' Wilcam mag.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/MINOLTA-WILCAM-SUP-8 ... dZViewItem

Rick

Post by **r.sk8s** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:22 pm

I saw one of these twice in a pawn shop in toronto. As this one is from ontario, it could be the one. The guy wanted $700.00us. Regrets, should have bought it.

Wilcam developed these with the TV news industry in mind. Never caught on and not many were made. The choice of the minolta D10 is curious. Those cameras are fairly loud even for super 8 cameras.

Robert Skates

Post by **jaxshooter** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:40 pm

I've never seen one in real life, but I have seen a pic of that one on ebay before.Wished I had had the money to bid on it as it went for cheaper than what it's listed there.

Just wondering if you can still get film on single strand rolls and maybe have it darkroom mag striped.Seems expensive and troublesome though.

There was another model made that I saw a pic of in Super 8 Filmaker at the Photokina '74 exhibit.It sported a coaxial magazine and unlike this model, it wasn't a modification of an existing model but built from the ground up.Looked like a baby Eclair ACL.Don't know if it was a prototype or if any of this model went into production.

Post by **S8 Booster** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:28 pm

jaxshooter wrote:.....
Just wondering if you can still get film on single strand rolls and maybe have it darkroom mag striped.Seems expensive and troublesome though.
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how much do you want :?:

http://wittner-kinotechnik.de/katalog/0 ... s8_60m.php
http://wittner-kinotechnik.de/katalog/0 ... _meter.php

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Post by **tlatosmd** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:17 pm

This is the third time this cam pops up here since I'm around (which is since late April last year). The first time I posted a photo of one, scanned from JÃƒÂ¼rgen's book.

Post by **flatwood** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:55 am

Dang. That thing looks cool. Ive got to see it.

Wasnt Wilcam known for high speed mechanisms??? I think I might put a bid in on it.

Post by **Evan Kubota** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:55 am

That seems like a pretty dumb concept to me also - an unblimped, loud S8 camera set up so you can record double system sound?

On a shoot this weekend using my R10 and a Sennheiser boom mic into my GL2, the camera noise was pretty bad if it was any closer than 20-25 feet.

Post by **flatwood** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:50 am

Evan Kubota wrote:....On a shoot this weekend using my R10 and a Sennheiser boom mic into my GL2, the camera .....

Are you shooting video and film simultaneously??? Same shot???

Post by **Evan Kubota** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:47 am

Video was just to record the sound, but yes, both cameras were running simultaneously. It would have been better if I had thrown some old towels over the camera, but it wasn't my project, just my gear, and there wasn't time. The Sennheiser shotgun was also not as directional as I had hoped.

Post by **jaxshooter** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:38 pm

flatwood wrote:Dang. That thing looks cool. Ive got to see it.

Wasnt Wilcam known for high speed mechanisms??? I think I might put a bid in on it.

Yes, they built some high speed 35mm cameras as well as some Vistavision cameras.

Evan, yes, it is dumb to build a noisy camera for sound.The later model was blimped if memory serves but I think it came about a year too late as the industry had already gone to ENG.