Widest Angle lens for Bolex H16?

Post by **Arislan** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:25 pm

I intend to shoot a miniature set composited with real people. This means I need to use the widest angle lens possible in sunlight. I have an 8mm lens, is there an even wider one?

Post by **Nigel** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:05 am

What about a Kinoptik 5.7?? Or Angenieux 5.9??

Good Luck

Post by **Arislan** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:20 am

Can't find those on eBay. By the way, my Bolex has a screw mount of sorts. I always thought they had a C mount but that's not what that is, is it?

If it was I'd get this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 5806191797

Post by **ccortez** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:29 am

I don't know of any H16's that aren't (technically-speaking) c-mount. The really old ones have the long-thread version of that mount, so you'll see "c-mount" lenses with deep threads that won't fit a newer c-mount camera.

Nigel states above the 2 widest c-mount primes I'm familiar with. I have seen both on ebay from time to time. You won't find the kinoptik cheap, ever. Probably not the Angenieux either, but I believe it's a bit more common.

If you're searching ebay for these, make sure and check the "worldwide" option.

Post by **Arislan** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:39 am

What mount is this?

That is the zoom lens I took from my Auricon, was hoping to use on my Bolex with some sort of adapter...but I have no idea what mount that is.

Post by **francis** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:48 am

thats actually the back of the lens. the auricons seemed to be designed to take the regular mount. i have one. mine has a cover that converts that lens to c mount

Post by **teadub** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:39 am

there is also a 5.7mm century optics (branded) c-mount lens.

Post by **seekaee** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:32 am

I just picked up a Rx 1 for a steal last week. Anyone knows if this lens would fit?

Post by **audadvnc** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:34 pm

I own the Century(?) Super Cinetar 3.5mm and 5.7mm C-mount lenses. They are -really- wide in 16mm, just about fisheye. I believe the 3.5mm lens has about a 120 degree frame angle. Don't know how they work on a Beaulieu, haven't tried yet.

Post by **ccortez** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:36 pm

audadvnc wrote:I own the Century(?) Super Cinetar 3.5mm and 5.7mm C-mount lenses. They are -really- wide in 16mm, just about fisheye. I believe the 3.5mm lens has about a 120 degree frame angle. Don't know how they work on a Beaulieu, haven't tried yet.

3.5!?!

I guess that's for filming the back of one's own head?

Post by **Evan Kubota** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:16 pm

Is the 3.5mm lens going to fill the 16mm frame without vignetting? The Kinoptic has an enormous front element (looks like 5-6" across). I've seen some very wide angle CCTV lenses in C-mount but I don't think they will cover the frame.

Post by **Nigel** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:33 pm

Yes. The 3.5 will cover Reg16.

Good Luck

Post by **Arislan** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:00 am

But won't that 3.5mm give the image a round effect? Like a real fish eye? If not then it is perfect for what I want.

Post by **Nigel** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:27 pm

Yeah the 3.5 will give a "Bubble/Fish eye" look. Anything wide will. You can see distortion even at 9.5mm.

Good Luck

Post by **Arislan** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:56 pm

Maybe I can get away with 10mm then. I have no intention of making the composite scene look unnatural. The idea is to have the miniature in the foreground and the people however many feet behind it.