Assuming the daylight notch setting afects the cameras controls to set a different speed then if you tell it there is no daylight filter then it will meter at the speed it does when it is not compensating for the filter.
If you add an external filter it won't know about it and will continue to meter for the same speed and so will be unable to compensate for the drop in speed through the new filter.
So that means it would set the meter to the speed of the film when tungsten balanced which is 40asa.
Adding a daylight filter would then mean less light made it to the film.
If sk8 is right that the E64 is rated at 40ASA with an 85B filter, then the film should be exposed correctly.
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Anyone actually tested 64T in a 40/160 camera?
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To be even clearer, the film is always 64 ASA.
The 40 setting is what you set it for to compensate for the light lost through the filter, so if you are setting your settings manually you would pretend the film was 40 ASA and calculate your settings from there.
...and if the film camera is set to 40 ASA it will also calculate all its settings from there..
You can't pull this trick indoors tho! ;)
...and when I think about it, you can only do this with cameras with seperate light meters because you don't put a filter over a manual light meter but on most s8 cameras if you are putting a filter over the lens you are also putting it over the meter.
So presumably on most S8 cameras the daylight notch setting makes no difference to the speed the camera is set to?????
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The 40 setting is what you set it for to compensate for the light lost through the filter, so if you are setting your settings manually you would pretend the film was 40 ASA and calculate your settings from there.
...and if the film camera is set to 40 ASA it will also calculate all its settings from there..
You can't pull this trick indoors tho! ;)
...and when I think about it, you can only do this with cameras with seperate light meters because you don't put a filter over a manual light meter but on most s8 cameras if you are putting a filter over the lens you are also putting it over the meter.
So presumably on most S8 cameras the daylight notch setting makes no difference to the speed the camera is set to?????
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Well someone was asking if some specific trick would work so the other people were trying to help. I think that is a good thing.jopsuper8 wrote:So has anyone else ACTUALLY TRIED 64T in a 40/160 only camera? There's 15 posters giving theory why it should / shouldn't work and 1 poster who actually tried it and had good results. Let's hear more from those folks who have actually tried it...
Trying it might be handy if people say which camera they tried it with. Otherwise it will be kind of meaningless because it's going to vary so much from camera to camera.
Ultimately it will work anyway but you will just get different results and then it depends what kind of results you are happy with. If you search the archives there are postings from people who have tried it with stills from their footage too.
The reason so few people have tried it yet is firstly because lots of us have K40 still and also that 64T seems to be preety unavailable so far. At any rate I've never seen any.
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