Finally Wittner - Velvia 50D is here!!

[vapparn]

"It seems like a good section of the s8 filmmaking/business world are just insane, maybe thats why the format is still alive?"

Hah. npcoombs, I agree totally.

[npcoombs]

http://www.geocities.com/russiancamera/ ... manual.htm

Anyone who this this proccess is a realistic solution for s8 filmmaking is crazy. This entire process must be done in darkness, feeling your way around to get 2.5 minutes of footage in a cart. In order to shoot a project I would want to have at least 8 carts pre-loaded, so thats about 100 EUROS for them and have to spend hours messing about in the knowledge that you introduced yet another variable into the quality control proccess.

If people have gripes about quality control at Pro8 I can't imagine what could happen with this. Fingerprints on important shots, dust, fading etc... Alright for hobbyist who likes the arts and crafts side of things but useless for filmmakers who are putting effort and money on the line to shoot projects.

And the whole Kodacart thing is a red herring as well. The cart design is hardly rocket science, it has been used by many companies over the years for s8 and I hardly think Kodak is going to sue for the patent at the present time. Certainly a scale of mass production should not add much to the cost over just selling raw stock in tins. An apportunity missed is all I can say.

[Carlos 8mm]

Anyone who this this proccess is a realistic solution for s8 filmmaking is crazy. This entire process must be done in darkness, feeling your way around to get 2.5 minutes of footage in a cart. In order to shoot a project I would want to have at least 8 carts pre-loaded, so thats about 100 EUROS for them and have to spend hours messing about in the knowledge that you introduced yet another variable into the quality control proccess.

It´s not so complicate as you could imagine. Just a little bit of practice.
Maybe you must to pay 100 bucks or Euros for 8/10 cartrigdes, but remember that you can use these carts all the times that you want.

If people have gripes about quality control at Pro8 I can't imagine what could happen with this. Fingerprints on important shots, dust, fading etc... Alright for hobbyist who likes the arts and crafts side of things but useless for filmmakers who are putting effort and money on the line to shoot projects.

I´ve loaded up to 40/50 Kaccemas. No fingerprints. No dust or fading.

Again, that´s depends of your skills and care when you load the film.

And the whole Kodacart thing is a red herring as well. The cart design is hardly rocket science, it has been used by many companies over the years for s8

Could be, but reality shows that there´s no more Super 8 Manufacturers who sells the film in Kodapak system since 12 years ago or more, except Kodak & Pro8mm (the last one uses kodak carts).

I hardly think Kodak is going to sue for the patent at the present time. Certainly a scale oand f mass production should not add much to the cost over just selling raw stock in tins. An apportunity missed is all I can say.

IMHO, Reloadable carts can be a new chance to support Super 8 film.

[mik]

as i see on page, wittner will also offer v50d already in carts :
http://www.wittner-kinotechnik.de/katal ... _filmm.php

mik

[John_Pytlak]

The cart design is hardly rocket science, it has been used by many companies over the years for s8 and I hardly think Kodak is going to sue for the patent at the present time. Certainly a scale of mass production should not add much to the cost over just selling raw stock in tins. An apportunity missed is all I can say.

The Super-8 Cartridge Design has been published in SMPTE Standards, and is not proprietary.

But slitting and reperforating film to Super-8 format and reloading cartridges is very prone to dirt and steadiness issues.

[tlatosmd]

as i see on page, wittner will also offer v50d already in carts :
http://www.wittner-kinotechnik.de/katal ... _filmm.php

mik

Ah, it's starting to look up! They're already announcing their 'Wittnerchrome40' in that place, even!

[freddiesykes]

Could I buy that 400ft 50D and load it in a Supermag400?