why have they stopped K40....

[richalezio]

please excuse me if this has already been asked -but I have been away from it all for a while

why have they stopped K40 production?

rich

[Dr_Strange_Love]

Kodak said the chemical processing was too messy & expensive. Those are probably the main reasons

[audadvnc]

1)It's an older formulation, completely different from the rest of their line.

2)Some of the mfg & processing chemicals may be overly hazardous.

3)Kodak doesn't want to be in the processing business anymore.

4)Kodak's moving mfg overseas.

5)Kodachrome's not a big piece of their business anymore.

[richalezio]

is there any s8 stock available that is similiar to the colour/texture/quality/distinct look of k40?

rich

[Dr_Strange_Love]

You couldnt let me have this one...Could you?

[Dr_Strange_Love]

is there any s8 stock available that is similiar to the colour/texture/quality/distinct look of k40?

rich

Not the look like Kodachrome had, It was one of a kind. I suggest that you just stick with either black and white film or Ektachrome 64T film.

[audadvnc]

Yep, like he says. You might also investigate the line of Super 8 negative films that are now available. They don't look so much like K40, but more like 16mm film with a bit more grain.

[tlatosmd]

2)Some of the mfg & processing chemicals may be overly hazardous.

The only time that was mentioned in relation to Kodachrome (though I don't remember Kodak or any of their employees saying so), it turned out to be a hoax. Said hoax was suggesting environmentalists were protesting about improper chemical waste handling by Kodak, and it revealed as a hoax when it got public that Kodak sells all their chemical waste relating to Kodachrome to other companies after use.

5)Kodachrome's not a big piece of their business anymore.

As for supposedly dwindling sales of K40, sale figures have been the lowest during the early to mid-90s, and have been continually and annually rising ever since 1997. All that even though K40 prices were rising all during that time, too, 1 cart of K40 sold for about 6 to 7 Euros in 1990, while today it's 25 Euros per cart! Even still during the early to mid-90s, K40 was Kodak's best-selling S8 emulsion by far, and definitely remained so when sales were rising again.

4)Kodak's moving mfg overseas.

I'd wonder though why Kodak going to manufacture in China would be a reason for discontinuing K40.

As for substitute stocks, help for color reversal in S8 might come from overseas. Wittner Kinotechnik and GK Film in Germany are currently bringing Fuji's Velvia50D (which shows even less recognizable grain than K40) into S8, and they will also sell Wittnerchrome100D and Wittnerchrome40 (the latter being K40 in disguise), all much better and easier to expose in 40/160ASA only cams (which are almost all cameras) than Kodak's official K40 replacement 64T. Also, there's a chance we'll soon get a North Korean S8 film imported into the Western world, read about it here (9 pages up to now).

[John_Pytlak]

Kodak motion picture films are NOT being manufactured in China. :roll: Almost all are made in Kodak's USA facilities. Even Super-8 is migrating from Kodak's plant in Chalon-sur-Saone France to the USA.

With only two processing labs that offered Super-8 KODACHROME processing, the E64T film offers a simpler E-6 process that can be done by more labs, or even at home.

[Shanec8mm]

For all thoughs still wanting to film with kodachrome why not just switch to regualr 8mm cinechrome 40 yes the image is smaller but you still get that look of kodachrome i have shot a few home movies in regular 8mm and they all look great ! no need to worry about super8mm problems when u can just pick up a roll of regualr 8mm cinechrome 40 for 19.00 from dwaynes. I usually just drop the film off at walmart and return in 2 weeks pay 4.88 and that's that easy easy.

[tlatosmd]

The problem is also Dwayne's is dependent on Kodak's supply of Kodachrome processing chemicals.

[Angus]

And added to that some of us are not in the USA and therefore not able to take advantage of Wal Mart's cheap processing.

I think you can double the $19 quite safely for reg 8mm K40 plus processing in Europe.

Still...that's part of the reason why I got another reg 8 camera a couple of months ago...