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(Most of) your compositing looks like moving at a higher framerate than your footage, making it look fake. I think you should've opened a composition with 18fps and do your compositing in that.
And I still think your black overlay filtering during nightshots you got from somewhere else looks like DV. ;)
Also, did you shoot anamorphique, then didn't squeeze it to the correct aspect ratio but cropped it? It still looks pretty stretched in height.
And I still think your black overlay filtering during nightshots you got from somewhere else looks like DV. ;)
Also, did you shoot anamorphique, then didn't squeeze it to the correct aspect ratio but cropped it? It still looks pretty stretched in height.
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This was shot at 24 fps, scanned at 25 fps, but most of it is slowed. I got your point with the compositing, it's a great idea. I didn't think of that. I should have done the compositing and slowed it down afterwards. I will do next time!tlatosmd wrote:(Most of) your compositing looks like moving at a higher framerate than your footage, making it look fake.
With regards to format, this was shot anamorf 1.5x with a c-mount Iscorama36 lens. It is still stretched, and this is the look I wanted. I think it looks a little bit like old westerns sqeezed for television, they don't do that much anymore. The scratches comes from processing, I think, since it appers only on the K-40 and not on the Vision2. Could be something else and I will send the camera to be serviced shortly.
He's Russian. They sing like that. But when he speaks he has a normal voice. I will have another clip up shortly from the concert film I made, where you can hear him singing live.Sparky wrote:Is that guys voice really that deep?
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There is a lot of very striking imagery in this video. The castles, dead trees, dark costumes, burning torches and scratchy film blend beautifully. My favorite is when one of the characters raises his arms and a cross rises behind him. The “squeezed western look†adds to the creepiness.
I watched it twice, once with the music and once without. In terms of constructive criticism, I felt that when I watched it with the music it needed to be cut faster. Without the music the pacing seemed fine.
Very well done !!
I watched it twice, once with the music and once without. In terms of constructive criticism, I felt that when I watched it with the music it needed to be cut faster. Without the music the pacing seemed fine.
Very well done !!
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it could have used some evil midgets maybe. Okay, enough with the nonsense, although i think the music is a bit silly, i agree with the post above that you've succeeded in capturing the right atmosphere. It's all pretty convincing stuff. Editing and framing leave a bit to be desired though.
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Certainly not your best work.I've still got that french style Loopy video in the back of my mind which I could appreciate a thousand times more, which means that I was extremely enthusiast about it.
The beginning, the first 60 seconds or so I found boring and irritating. There wasn't much variation and the continuous walking of the characters itself made me suspect a lack of imagination. I wanted to stop watching it because of that, but I continued and I liked some scenes wich were different and more surprsing.
There was also something wrong with the long shots. They were a bit 'bald', I thought. Perhaps because of the overexposed sky. There was a climax however and a clear apotheoses. Perhaps you kept the rythm of the editing in the beginning low because you wanted to speed it up for the climaxing.
Didn't like the music either and found the SS uniforms a matter of bad taste I (I found it hard to dissociate them from the nazis). The music and the lead singer were on the edge of funny.
Doesn't look like your piece of cake to me, sunrise. wonder why you did it.
In the middle of the clip some part remind me of Murnau. Perhaps that would have been the right style.
O well, liked your other videos a hundred times better.
Please note that I don't take a particular pleasure in giving bad critics. I just wanted to give an earnest critique.
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Certainly not your best work.I've still got that french style Loopy video in the back of my mind which I could appreciate a thousand times more, which means that I was extremely enthusiast about it.
The beginning, the first 60 seconds or so I found boring and irritating. There wasn't much variation and the continuous walking of the characters itself made me suspect a lack of imagination. I wanted to stop watching it because of that, but I continued and I liked some scenes wich were different and more surprsing.
There was also something wrong with the long shots. They were a bit 'bald', I thought. Perhaps because of the overexposed sky. There was a climax however and a clear apotheoses. Perhaps you kept the rythm of the editing in the beginning low because you wanted to speed it up for the climaxing.
Didn't like the music either and found the SS uniforms a matter of bad taste I (I found it hard to dissociate them from the nazis). The music and the lead singer were on the edge of funny.
Doesn't look like your piece of cake to me, sunrise. wonder why you did it.
In the middle of the clip some part remind me of Murnau. Perhaps that would have been the right style.
O well, liked your other videos a hundred times better.
Please note that I don't take a particular pleasure in giving bad critics. I just wanted to give an earnest critique.
my three cents,
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Saw it again, this time with sound. I recall a number of times when the music was suggesting his two henchmen should be banging or blowing away yet they weren't.
I guess I somewhat agree with Paul, it's on the edge of being hilarious because it's so tremedously trash, or camp, like that Adam West Batman series.
I guess I somewhat agree with Paul, it's on the edge of being hilarious because it's so tremedously trash, or camp, like that Adam West Batman series.
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I think its great. It looks like you re-encoded, the dark scenes have less artifacts now.
The begining sequence was changed, if memory serves. Now you added some match cuts, that correspond with the beat of the song. Also there some towards the end. If it were me, I would change that.
The begining sequence was changed, if memory serves. Now you added some match cuts, that correspond with the beat of the song. Also there some towards the end. If it were me, I would change that.
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wow, some shots are among the best i've seen in a music video ever. unfortunetely i don't think it quite works as a whole for various reasons, mostly because you feel a sense of irony and you start seeing these guys heading off to work at the office on monday, but great work nevertheless. congrats.
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Thanks for all your comments, they are all very useful. It seems to split people in two groups, those who like it and those who don't - there is really no inbetween. And the Adam West Batman series is not bad at all.
I also think it is too long, but the band refused to cut the music down in the last minute, claiming it would castrate the song.
A bit of production info (I am NOT trying to excuse myself, it won't work anyway), I did everything myself; shooting and directing without a crew. Only a few people to help with the music play back, fire and driving.
For those who like the music, take a look at the concert clip I posted here. Any comments are always welcome.
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I also think it is too long, but the band refused to cut the music down in the last minute, claiming it would castrate the song.
A bit of production info (I am NOT trying to excuse myself, it won't work anyway), I did everything myself; shooting and directing without a crew. Only a few people to help with the music play back, fire and driving.
For those who like the music, take a look at the concert clip I posted here. Any comments are always welcome.
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It's not that I don't like this vid, its concept, or the 60s Batman series. It's just I'm afraid in case you aimed for a serious, non-humorous work you've failed on that. ;)
Anyway, I like the trash aspect about it. Guessing from the whole thing overall, I suppose it wasn't meant to be really serious anyway. Not only like Adam West, but also a bit in the trash style of Monty Python, maybe.
Those compositing issues could be corrected with but a few mouseclicks, I guess. The only thing I really don't like is the DV look of the night scenes from your b/w overlay technique you mentioned.
Anyway, I like the trash aspect about it. Guessing from the whole thing overall, I suppose it wasn't meant to be really serious anyway. Not only like Adam West, but also a bit in the trash style of Monty Python, maybe.
Those compositing issues could be corrected with but a few mouseclicks, I guess. The only thing I really don't like is the DV look of the night scenes from your b/w overlay technique you mentioned.
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