Chrome Pressure Plate for Super 8 Cartridge

Post by **filmo** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:51 am

jukkasil wrote:Just check this one (from our upcoming short movie Al dente), it has been shot with pressure plate and Vision 2 negatives:

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/AL_DENTE_SILENT_TEASER.MPG

that's some very sharp and steady footage. What camera? what stock?

Very clean transfer. I only saw one white spot.

It's so steady it almost looks like HD video.

That's not your father's super 8, or even your older brother's....

Post by **Justin Lovell** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:03 am

A common misconception is to blame the white spots on the film/transfer being dirty.... however, the main culprit is the lab who processes the film.

by the way, who did process your film?

Post by **jukkasil** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:10 am

filmo wrote:
jukkasil wrote:Just check this one (from our upcoming short movie Al dente), it has been shot with pressure plate and Vision 2 negatives:

http://www.sorb-i-tol.com/AL_DENTE_SILENT_TEASER.MPG
that's some very sharp and steady footage. What camera? what stock?

Very clean transfer. I only saw one white spot.

It's so steady it almost looks like HD video.

That's not your father's super 8, or even your older brother's....

Canon 1014 XL-S with Frame Master pressure plate, 4000 W halogens (costed us 40 euro to buy from local store called "Hong Kong"

) indoor, in night scene outdoor we used 1500 w Desisti fresnels (costed us 20 euro to rent). Vision2 200T (outdoor), Vision2 500T (indoor and the night scene), 85B filter outdoor. I have done many shorts with this same camera before, so I know it very well. Processed by Andec, transfered digital via them in AVP, Munich, Germany.

Post by **filmo** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:27 pm

damn....seems the Canon/pressure plate/vision combo produces the most "modern" super 8 footage I've ever seen.

Of course, you have to light it and expose it properly, but there's something about the Canon glass....don't know what it is, but I like it. Seems brighter, with open shadows--not all blocked up.

I'll say it again...steadiness was exceptional...and the negative stock doesn't look grainy to me, although I'd love to see some of this footage at a higher resolution!!!

Captain Howdy · Post by **Captain Howdy** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:39 pm

filmo wrote:damn....seems the Canon/pressure plate/vision combo produces the most "modern" super 8 footage I've ever seen.

That's exactly the opposite of what S8 Booster always says! The opposite of what S8 Booster always says!

Post by **filmo** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:23 pm

Captain Howdy wrote: That's exactly the opposite of what S8 Booster always says! The opposite of what S8 Booster always says!

He's just wrong.

Captain Howdy · Post by **Captain Howdy** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:27 pm

filmo wrote:
Captain Howdy wrote: That's exactly the opposite of what S8 Booster always says! The opposite of what S8 Booster always says!
He's just wrong.

You try and tell him that!

Post by **S8 Booster** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:00 am

filmo wrote:
Captain Howdy wrote: That's exactly the opposite of what S8 Booster always says! The opposite of what S8 Booster always says!
He's just wrong.

never said that. exists only in santos imagination.

Captain Howdy wrote:
filmo wrote:damn....seems the Canon/pressure plate/vision combo produces the most "modern" super 8 footage I've ever seen.
That's exactly the opposite of what S8 Booster always says! The opposite of what S8 Booster always says!

well santo, or is it pinochio - solid wood from ear to ear i see - finally your avtar gives a meaning. i see that your lack of technical knowledge isnt your only problem, keeping two thoughts straight at one time is way too much too.

this is what i have said:

1) my 1014 xls with k40 and the pressureplate will stick in lower temperatures.
2) no problem with VNF or NEG film and enhanced stability is achived with the pp and neg film.
3) my cam has shot an amount of film you forever are only able to dream of. i have handled it very roughly and it has never had any servicing. natural variation between cams handled differently will occour. some may do better with a pp than others which is why i suggest anybody to make a test individually.
4) once i wrote that the high resolution lens with its superb colour coating specially designed to improve the very narrow contrast range of slow reversals MIGHT not be the best solution for neg films which has a extremely wide latitude naturally.

looking at Jukkasils vision2 clips this seems like no problem and undoubtly is an enhancement with reservation for a superb transfer. i have only shot v1 neg as of yet and the transfer was somewhat screwed up by PRO8mm - later re-transferred by andreas so i could verify this and the PRO8 transfer i got is definately not matching what Jukkasil has got with the v2 unless the difference is all in the filmstock.

Captain Howdy · Post by **Captain Howdy** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:10 am

I'm not a saint I'm a puppet! A puppet with a wooden head!

the (Canon) high resolution lens with its superb colour coating specially designed to correct the narrow contrast range of slow reversals MIGHT not be the best solution for neg films which has a extremely wide latitude naturally.

That's what you say alright. That's what you say.

Post by **tlatosmd** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:01 am

filmo wrote:damn....seems the Canon/pressure plate/vision combo produces the most "modern" super 8 footage I've ever seen.

I repeat, I've never had as poor registration as implied by GK Film who make the pressure plate.

Post by **Lunar07** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:21 pm

I have one and I always use it. The footage produced with a Zeiss Ikon MS8 and GS8 is quite steady. However, I never tried these Zeiss cameras withouth the pressure plate. I got the plate at a cheap price from someone on this forum so I thought - I may as well use it always.
I say that because you are not going to get a straight answer on the absolute advantages of this plate. So you may as well get one and use it

As for Single 8 - issue is that it is hard to get process here and not many stocks as Super 8.

taki wrote:Has anyone tried these metal pressure plates you put in a super 8 cartridge ? They are ment to improve the image. You can see a picture of one if you scroll down this page...
http://www.beaulieu-images.com/
It's in French,but just put your mouse over the picture next to the words
"La RÃƒÂ©volution pour les cassettes Super 8" and you'll get the idea.

Post by **david** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:36 pm

Lunar07 wrote:I have one and I always use it. The footage produced with a Zeiss Ikon MS8 and GS8 is quite steady. However, I never tried these Zeiss cameras withouth the pressure plate.

s**t! I'm waiting for some 10 carts to come back from Andec and I didn't have the pressure plate on my Zeiss S8. I did some test carts with k40 and it looked fine, but this time it was all plusx/trix, and I keep reading about stability issues on this camera :evil:

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