Should we ignore rude posts.

Post by **mojohey** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:35 pm

I love this board and all the wonderful people who visit regularly...

but i can't help feeling there is a really negative vibe entering into too many threads... so i'll ask the question...

Should we ignore rude and negative posts (not including this negative post :? )

or

Should we encourage negative posts by answering them and starting another fight?

Post by **monobath** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:40 pm

I said "I don't care", but it's really more like, c'est la vie.

I just googled "c'est la vie" to be sure I spelled it right, and the first page I came up with had this quote:

"Life is rarely as we would like it to be rather it is exactly as it is." --anoymous

A good observation, that.

Post by **mojohey** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:52 pm

EDIT: the poll should read... Should rude POSTS be ignored... not MEMBERS.

Sorry. you get the drift.

Post by **S8 Booster** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:59 pm

no, id suggest you modify the title n poll from:

[ Poll ] Should we ignore rude posts.

to:

[ Poll ]Should we kick rude member X out of this forum?.

option Yes or No only.

by 2/3 majority it should be effective by the webmaster.

I believe in extended democracy,

and will resign any time at 2/3 majority

apology if i have stirred something up with my posts or offended anyone.

Post by **npcoombs** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:20 pm

Should rude members be suspended from using this forum?

YES.

This forum is losing its interesting debates due to pseudo-trolls (M'Lord)poking their noses in with deliberately provocative comments which derail any serious discussion.

Post by **MovieStuff** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:23 pm

Well, we all tend to get a little snippy in our replies from time to time (me included!) but I agree with your sentiment. Perhaps a more fitting poll would be

"Should we just ignore members that bring absolutely nothing to any discussion other than an elitist attitude with no evidence of experience?"

Roger

Post by **greyskale** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:24 pm

the way i see it... if someone really feel motivated (for some strange reason) to talk down to every other member of this board, let them. they just end up looking like more of an ass that way.
i love this forum, but i can't help but roll my eyes every time some one here deliberately ruffles someone else's feathers... which actually seems to happen quite often.
come on guys... life is far too short to take all of this soooo seriously anyway. i come here for for the same reasons i think every one should be here advice and suggestions on how to SHOOT FILM...

Post by **monobath** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:56 pm

As soon as you start setting vague standards for behavior, the virtual lynch mobs begin to form around anyone who steps slightly out of line, and even long-time respected members of the community will eventually be targeted. And the rules will not be applied evenly. Favoritism and protectionism and arbitrariness will reign if an autocratic moderator wields the banishment sceptre. Spite and personal grudges and mob-behavior will come into play in any democratic system. Like moths drawn to light, the madding crowd will blindly follow the narrow cow-path that leads to viscious unjustified retribution for trivial offenses, and senseless acts of puerile punishment will ensue. All such methods of policing and enforcement of mandated civility and decorum will result in the celebration of banality. The scintillating brilliance of the forum will be quenched, and the interest of its members will wane.

I've seen this happen on boards and list servers where some people demand that all others adhere to their own personal lofty high standards of decorum. People get lynched for the most trivial of reasons whenever anyone gets slightly miffed. Even when apologies are later made for "overreacting" against the "offending" black-listed (lynched) individual and he is admitted back into the fold with all assurances that nothing is held against him, there is always a dampening of enthusiasm that ensues, and hidden grudges. It negatively affects the entire community.

My advice to those who wish to govern is to govern your own self, and ignore behavior you don't want to participate in. Certainly don't egg it on if you disapprove.

Light moderation of only the most egregious offenders in the manner that Andreas currently employs fosters an inviting and stimulating atmosphere for discussion that attracts the greatest diversity of members and expressive ideas to the forum.

I like it as it is.

Post by **lastcoyote** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:57 pm

greyskale wrote:the way i see it... if someone really feel motivated (for some strange reason) to talk down to every other member of this board, let them. they just end up looking like more of an ass that way.
i love this forum, but i can't help but roll my eyes every time some one here deliberately ruffles someone else's feathers... which actually seems to happen quite often.
come on guys... life is far too short to take all of this soooo seriously anyway. i come here for for the same reasons i think every one should be here advice and suggestions on how to SHOOT FILM...

I totally agree, well... my personal opinion... M'Lord's messages sometime DO annoying & piss someone off. But sometime his messages do help on answering... and in serious mind too. I think he may not want to offend anyone in purpose... I think that's the way he speaks.

Alex · Post by **Alex** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:05 pm

lastcoyote wrote: M'Lord's messages sometime DO annoying & piss someone off. But sometime his messages do help on answering... and in serious mind too. I think he may not want to offend anyone in purpose... I think that's the way he speaks.

Do you know what the M stands for in M'Lord's name?

If you do, then it is in and of itself a potstirrer.

Post by **Evan Kubota** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:30 pm

The guy is surely annoying, but I basically agree with monobath. I'm the veteran of numerous forums for all kinds of subjects that have collapsed due to over-moderation. This is a unique place on the internet because Andreas applies a very minimal touch with regards to control and moderation. That said, M'Lord is showing signs of minimizing the obnoxious British-noble act. He posted on a thread about C-mount primes last night that was reasonably informative and relevant. Eventually he'll probably get tired of having to compose each post in such a mannered tone

Post by **mojohey** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:23 pm

Evan Kubota wrote:This is a unique place on the internet because Andreas applies a very minimal touch with regards to control and moderation.

Agreed... but all i asked originaly was "should we ignore rude members / posts. I'm not saying there should be more control or policing here, its just about how we as other members react to these type of posts.

Anyway better get back to work.

Post by **Alex_W** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:06 pm

I voted 'no'. A rude post to me is one in which the poster insults someone one way or the other, without any apperent reason other than his/her suggested superiority. You should always react to that.
I don't think M'lord (we all knew it was a topic about this guy) is really rude. He's just really very tiring. His act was funny for about, let me think, maybe half a second. What i like(d) about this board is that it was serious, and there weren't any posters who looked down on anyone. With M'lord, every serious thread soon turns into the next series of nonsense.
It's not about him being extravagant or something, his act is all about annoying the hell out of this board. Ignoring him would be a good idea. He would either start posting like a respectful human being or leave. I hope it's the former.

Post by **audadvnc** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:11 pm

Of course, M'Lord's sig as of this morning includes -

"I am really Santos"

But he didn't spell the name right? Another clever obfuscation by the Master?

I must ponder the significance of this... :!: ... or not

Post by **Superbus_** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:59 pm

I think the situation is clear: Andreas is the moderator and not the forum members.
I do belive free speech but the moderator can stop anybody, who is violating others.

Filmshooting

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