think ive heard it 1000 timesultramarine wrote:I suggest everyone that hasn't listened to the "Trout Mask Replica" (Beefheart) yet, to do it asap. He must listen to it very carefully and at least 10 times.
Then, we can continue our conversation.
the trout was trown in my face everytime i visited one or more of my friends at the time. the title probably being the best part of that record.
the thing about beefy and zappa - his compadre was that they spent a lot of resources to trying to make "anti-music" vs the more established and successful mainstream artists.
example is zapps "were only in it for the money" which was a sgt pepper ripoff. zap continued with this at least way into the 80s. i can understand his frustration over not being able to compose play and sell his favourite music: classic which noone could make a living from at the time in the form he wanted.
what he did was going the zap way to make money and to air his frustration over us socitety and other more successful artists by doing it the electric experimental style rock way.
while pretty successful in europe he was banned from us radio. free enterprise up you ass.
as far as i know zap produced the trout and it sold in the wild numbers of 500 000 copies
beef zap and more were no more than sulking pathetic brats in music history of the day - musically and personally. look at it like an immature youth rebel uproar. i sympathize with zap in his critisim against the us society but when he hit out at other artists - others are dylan and later santana - the thing goes more pathetic.
zap did some good stuff between 75 to mid 80s or so but the sulking undernote remained and in the later years he went classic - disappointing enough blueprinting what he did the rock way years before not taking full advantage of what can be done with philharmonic orchestras.
he got his classic dreams fulfilled but to me with very disappointing results.
beefy? perfect fit for a late youth uproar i guess.
my 2 tinzetown rebellion band centavos.
