Another question for the ages...

Post by **etimh** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:38 pm

Yeah, Captain Beefheart is crucial. I'm not a monster fan but my girl was just listening to them the other day.

BTW, is anyone interested that Kate Bush's first album in 12 years (!) is set to be released November 7?

Just keeping this musical ball rolling.

Tim

Post by **S8 Booster** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:43 pm

heh, i dont exactly expect younger people to run n buy beatle music today anyway

what was about the 60s that the whole music scene changed all the time into someting better there was allways something new at an incredible tempo and force. beatles was the main driving force to be challenged but there was a lot of other artists producing fabolous music so it was like floating on an bewildering awesome tsunami of good vibes the beatles being the epicenter. bladdy Ã‚Â´ell i get emotional n nostalgic Ã‚Â´ere. - totally seductive it was.

well, everything at the right time and place i guess, less than 20 years after wwii. imagine that.

Post by **ultramarine** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:08 am

I suggest everyone that hasn't listened to the "Trout Mask Replica" (Beefheart) yet, to do it asap. He must listen to it very carefully and at least 10 times.
Then, we can continue our conversation.

Post by **tlatosmd** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:27 am

S8 Booster wrote:heh, i dont exactly expect younger people to run n buy beatle music today anyway

Would you be surprised if I'd tell you I was born years after John Lennon's assassination? ;)

S8 Booster wrote:what was about the 60s that the whole music scene changed all the time into someting better there was allways something new at an incredible tempo and force. beatles was the main driving force to be challenged but there was a lot of other artists producing fabolous music so it was like floating on an bewildering awesome tsunami of good vibes the beatles being the epicenter. bladdy Ã‚Â´ell i get emotional n nostalgic Ã‚Â´ere. - totally seductive it was.

Sounds like I have the right webradio station for you Booster: http://www.beyondthebeatgeneration.com

.

And this Dungen stuff sounds great. Judging from those posting before me, does Dungen happen to be recent?

Post by **etimh** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:36 am

ultramarine wrote:I suggest everyone that hasn't listened to the "Trout Mask Replica" (Beefheart) yet, to do it asap. He must listen to it very carefully and at least 10 times.
Then, we can continue our conversation.

My girlfriend says "EXACTLY!" You have a big fan over here ultramarine.

Tim

Post by **Evan Kubota** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:39 am

"Here's a little suggestion for you super8booster if you're unhappy with the current state of musical affairs (and they're [he's] even from your neck of the woods).

Dungen"

I like Dungen quite a bit... I think I posted a few months ago regarding how his music is viewed in Scandinavia. Is it popular?

I also agree that there are some strange preferences in this thread. Depeche Mode? I guess they're still big in Europe...

Post by **S8 Booster** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:53 am

tlatosmd wrote: Would you be surprised if I'd tell you I was born years after John Lennon's assassination? ;)

yes, and no

my youngest son is on 15 is widly attracted by beatle music but also other music of the day and he (uninfluenced by me) complains about the plastic fantastic music of today. he is a very talented and gifted person musically and clearly makes up his own mind about music.

been very held back vs my children about their musical preferences.
what happened is that they messed around with my cd collection which also includes percy sledge, kinks, elvis, everly brothers, simon and garfunkel, beach boys + + + + and they really liked the stuff and started to ask me about it.

no, for anyone having the ability to dive in under the reference level of dancing rythms i am not surprised that you are into this. it is a treasure beyond the wildest dreams for whom anyone music is more than dancing or head-banging.

it i a bit amazing that younger people get this attracted to it but it credits the awesome work and timelessness this music and artists created.

very nice to not be the lone beatle lunatic on the board

tnx for the link.

Post by **etimh** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:59 am

Evan Kubota wrote:I like Dungen quite a bit... I think I posted a few months ago regarding how his music is viewed in Scandinavia. Is it popular?

What's the story with Dungen? I've heard the name before but I thought maybe it was black metal. And then when you made the Scandanavian connection...

But I just checked out some of the music files and the "Panda" video. It sounds like psychadelic pop-electronica or something along that line. Is all of the music pretty much like this? What are they (he?) about?

Tim

Post by **timdrage** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:24 am

He must listen to it very carefully and at least 10 times.

I second that!! Those are definitely the criteria! You're not allowed to just listen once and give up!

I saw the Magic Band play live earlier this year!!! Even without Beefheart they are really amazing... and seem like really nice guys... played a really satisfyingly long set, obviously were having a lot of fun playing this incredible music, and came out to sign stuff and chat afterwards...

John French sings on some tracks and has taught himself to do a fairly convincing impersonation of the beefheart style!

I'm so glad i got to see them, being too young by far to have caught them in their beefheart days...

I could hardly listen to any other music for weeks, everything else just didn't seem worth it in comparison!!!

Post by **Evan Kubota** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:56 am

I guess the closest description of Dungen would be kind of pseudo-electronic rock with ambient and jazz influences.

The album is pretty varied, with some tracks basically sounding like low-key space jazz and others that are more rock-oriented.

Post by **Taqi** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:28 am

Tim Buckley - he's a starsailor.

Post by **Carlos 8mm** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:30 am

I was born in 1970, two months after the "official" statemet about Paul leaving the group in April 10...

I discovered The FAB when I was 10, just listening "Please Please Me". The fresh sound of this first LP with their primitive "Cavern Club/Hamburg" style droves me crazy... till today.

It was a sort of "open door" for me to discover other groups or other kind of music.

And the chaps shots a lot of Std8 /Super 8 home movies!!

God bless Them...

Post by **steve hyde** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:42 am

...well Nigel, I would counter Bon Scott's statement with *what is rock without melody* my answer to that would be *noise*. That said I often find melody in noise, but that is usually when the noise comes out of an effort to create a melody....

I've always thought AC/DC was frat-boy rock really...and you have to admit it is: I've got big balls, I've got big balls; who has the biggest balls of them all...and so on and so forth.....tiresome.

Mark Bolan, The Stooges, David Bowie were all much more archetypal in my opinion.

Steve

Post by **Evan Kubota** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:25 am

"I've always thought AC/DC was frat-boy rock really...and you have to admit it is: I've got big balls, I've got big balls; who has the biggest balls of them all...and so on and so forth.....tiresome."

You do know there are other AC/DC songs, right? I'm not saying they have the complexity of Coltrane, etc. For what it is, it's excellent. There's something timeless about stripped-down, basic rock that is as essential as any other style, IMO.

Post by **Taqi** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:28 am

steve hyde wrote: frat-boy rock really...

Nah. That's Bon Jovi.

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