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Lou Reed
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26%
David Bowie
16
52%
Iggy Pop
4
13%
T-Rex
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tlatosmd wrote:Anyway, since we're talking about things that'll really matter throughout the ages, I'd like to note that it have been The Beatles who've done everything before anyone had done anything. ;)
yeah but these guys are too young to know. they have to take what can they get ofcourse.

its been a bloody "cold turkey" musical world since jan/1 1970. bloody vaccum. continous downtrip. shit. music died with the 60. it was a bloody ever enhancing full charge trip from beginning to end.


there is a tiny monument vs the original cavern club in ´pool with the description: "four lads who shook the world". just about it.

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ultramarine wrote: Anyone here like the Residents? Captain Beefheart maybe?
I like Captain Beefheart, and I'm friends with Moris Tepper (guitarist for Captain Beefhart, Tom Waits, and Frank Black, amoung others)
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some of my friends used to like beefy due to what they took for his anti mainstream attitude of the time. i wasnt exactly a fan - found im to "destructive" not really creative at the time (early 70s). anyway just thought of him the other day and would easily traded all todays top crap with beefy. it genuine and raw - find him great by todays standard. genuine and raw - thats my game. yah, waits ok too.
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The Beatles...

C'Mon. They are the worst fuckin' band ever. AC/DC did more for music than Sir Paul could ever spooge his pants over. Lou Reed has more going in his left big toe that Ringo has despite Thomas the Wank Engine....If we are going to talk Brit Rock there are only two bands we need to talk about The Who and Jethro Tull.

Fuck the beatles.

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sure too young - you werent there - jt? you gotta be kiddying?

there are 2 "bands" that truly made history and will for ever will remain unchallenged of modern music history:

Beatles and Beach Boys.

dig into their more complex stuff and youre gone get forever lost and frustrated over anything in the top music scene today. there is no turning back. there been a continious musical deterioration since 1970.

the only 2 bands that were much better on stage than in the recording studios - when they were allowed to.
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If you think Sir Paul and Brian Wilson are the peak of rock and roll then you have your head so deep in the ground that firey pits of Hades have given the you the best buzz ever...

The beatles were lame imposters of Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry. Despite the fact that the only guy to come close to what Sun Studios put out since its demise was Bon Scott who sold Blues/Rock back to ignorant Yanks.

If we are talking Brit Rock then there are only two bands--The Who and Jethro Tull.

Good Luck and screw Sir Shithead
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i see, far young yo know anything about - music...

try to get hold of the complete 31.12.1962 Reperbahn Beatles tapes and youll learn what rock n roll is all about. berry and lill richard admitted that The Beatles played and sung the fuck out of them.

alternatively you may see if you can get hold of a copy of their live performance on Swedish TV in 1963 just before hell broke lose - when they were at the peak as live performers according to themselves. such performances would turn any club upside down even today - theres simply noone touching them.

Jethro Tull proves that you are far to young to understand. some of my younger friends were into tull n ive listened a lot to their records from the late 60 onto 70s id rather rename them to Goddamnd Dull pretenders.

cant belive that any "rock star" except possibly Reggie Dwight would be "proud" over the "Sir" title which has nothing to to with musical creativity. Guess you highly dislike "Sir Mick Jagger" as much?

guess spice girls will become knighted "SpaceLadys" next time they meet?

If you were half updated in modern music history youd know that R&B black music was highly disregarded by the white establishment in USA in the 50s and early 60s for being "filthy" and bad for the youth and treated accordingly ie not known. thus elvis was the only contender accepted performing their music allthough he was "no good for the youth" either. being non black made him half accepted. withhout brit bands refining it and re-exporting it to USA there a fair chance youd never heard of Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Motowns et all n a lot of blues musicians was well.

The black artists in charge recently returned a big thank you to the brit bands of the 60s for making their muisc accepted in the usa and allowed them you succed as artists there as well.

if my memory serves both Chuck Berry and Little Richard played in Hamburg pre 1963 - and were very popular in europe but not known at all or accepted at all in the "white" USA. Apparently they met The Beatles In Hamburg and from memory I recall Little Richard toured with them in Britain in 1963.

well, that was the short version.


btw next time you have the opportunity go-see-hear-procol-harum-live still having their original crew and they still play and sing the fuck out of anything mentioned originally in this post in still in their original keys and arrangements.
you may get an indicator of what some of what the 60s was about.


AC/DC? yeah - sure - pretenders. i know them well. my wifes UK nephew lived with us for a while was deep into AC/DC at their peak so i know them well. great. so whose head dug in nigel? :wink:

you may well add Motörhead, Iron Maiden, Kizz + + + + +

the only thing i can credit AC/DC for is that when you listen to their shit today it comes out good compared to what considered the most "hot" current music scene - as does many other bands in between 60s and now not really good in their time.
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Why not take me to task with The Who?? Fine you don't like JT...You may not like Mark Knopfler either.

Little Richard is great--I have seen him in concert three times and all three times the old ass crusty fuck has blown me away. Yes, Black music was never taken seriously by the mainstream American public in the 50's that is why Elvis, Lewis, Cash all played on Sun. It is also why the best blues-rocker Bon Scott (A Scot by way of Oz) sold his sound to American kids in 1970's his sound.

As for Sir Mick. He can screw himself too. Keith Richards is what made the Stones the Stones and he hasn't been Knighted.

Any of knighted losers are just that...Keith Moon wasn't knighted. Ian Anderson isn't a knight. Johnny Rotten hasn't a piece of tin on his chest nor does Ozzie. Who has been knighted?? Elton John, Paul McCartney, Mick Jagger...

The Limeys haven't given the world music. They have only resold what they liked backed to the unwashed masses.

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Well, it's all a matter of taste. I voted for Lou Reed, but when it comes to classic rock, my favorite would be Deep Purple. Or maybe Jimi Hendrix. No wait, Robin Trower. No wait, Jim Morrison. No wait, Pink Floyd. No wait, Jethro Tull. No wait, Golden Earring. No wait, The Doobie Brothers. No wait, the Troggs ... er, yeah...

Ahh shucks, I got too many rock favs to pick from.

For more recent stuff, AC/DC. Then there's AC/DC. And finally AC/DC. Oh, yeah, Aerosmith. And Alice in Chains.

And in-between there was Steely Dan. And Rush.

But for blues, it would have to be Buddy Guy. Or Stevie Ray Vaughn. Or BB King.

For Jazz, it's gotta be Herbie Hancock. Or Coltrane. Or Michael Franks. Or Al Jarreau.

For folk, it's Bob Dylan. And Peter Paul and Mary. And the Kingston Trio. And Arlo Guthrie.

I don't like country, well maybe John Prine, but for just plain weird and wacky fun, there's Kinky Friedman and the Texas Jewboys. The Texas answer to Frank Zappa.
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Nigel, in what way are songs like Being for the benefit of Mr. Kite!, Tomorrow never knows, Strawberry Fields Forever, or I'm the walrus, It's all too much lame imposing of Chuck Berry?

If you think The Beatles only matter in terms of Rock'n'Roll, you don't seem to know much about them nor their era. They were more, far more, and still you can't tell me songs like Lady Madonna, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, Back in the USSR, or Everybody's got something to hide except for me and my monkey ain't great rockers.

The Beatles were for 20th century music what Thomas Edison was for technological progress. Edison helped cinematography along quite a lot by his kinetoscope, yet you can't limit him to it. All pure rock bands are rather like George Eastman, they're specialists in one trade, no all-rounders.

AC/DC? Ain't they those Slade posers, at least musically? Remember, Slade, those glam rockers that were, like, the missing link between The Stones and AC/DC.
S8Booster wrote:alternatively you may see if you can get hold of a copy of their live performance on Swedish TV in 1963 just before hell broke lose - when they were at the peak as live performers according to themselves. such performances would turn any club upside down even today - theres simply noone touching them.
If it's that Drop-In show, footage of that is included in The Beatles Anthology.
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"AC/DC did more for music than Sir Paul could ever spooge his pants over."

Finally, someone else who feels the same way. I find it hard to get very excited over the Beatles when most of their stuff is pale retreads of American blues and early rock.

AC/DC, on the other hand, kicked ass.

No one's brought up Zeppelin yet... and if anyone starts a Zeppelin vs. Cream thread, it could get ugly.
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hmmm.. even more "experts" not having an idea what was really going on. AC/DC never was more than a fart in the wind. rock was dead long before ACDC entered the scene. like more or less all past 60s band they were pretenders and wannabees just chewing endlessly on old recdycled..

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you are correct. i have the DVD too.
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btw, how come ACDC didnt appear on ur plastic list :?:
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Being a music reviewer must make me some kind of expert, no?

Here's the news: Rock is dead, long live electronica!

There's a lot of new acts comming out of Norway these days. Look out for the new deaf center cd out next month. The press release states it's "inspired by old super 8 reels." And it is not bad at all.

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sunrise wrote:Here's the news: Rock is dead, long live electronica!
Yes, and so are George Washington, Bismarck, or Adam Smith.
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