PAINTING ON FILM...BRAKHAGE STYLE

[davidhangell]

DOES ANYONE HAVE INFO ON PAINTING ON FILM TECHNIQUES OR KNOW OF ANY BOOKS OR WEBSITES W/ COMPREHENSIVE INFO ON THIS?

[twotoneska]

I don't know of specific how-to information, but I know there is documentary footage of him in the process of painting frames on the Criterion "By Brakhage" DVD.

[P.w.Shelton]

If I recall correctly, He states in the Criterion dvd that he used dyes made from coal tar. This material was the cause of his kidney cancer which unfortunately led to his early death, so obviously stay away from that stuff. I'm not sure what types of materials you can use but try this guy. He may be able to help you out.
http://www.kenpaulrosenthal.com/films.htm

[jpolzfuss]

Hi,

I haven't got a "How to", but a German "what to use":
http://www.rohrer-klingner.de/sites/5.htm

;)

Jörg

[jpolzfuss]

Some more links:

http://www.colorvir.com/

http://website.lineone.net/~mauricefish ... nting.html

[Klaus]

I haven't got a "How to", but a German "what to use":
http://www.rohrer-klingner.de/sites/5.htm

I made some experiments with the 'DIAPHOTO Dye-Lasurfarbe' some years ago, but I used them to dye the film, not really to paint on it. But the results were very good, good colors and they are still fine (I think it was ten years ago, and they are still brillant). Don't sure if you can create a 'Brakhage'-Style with them... :?:

If you're interested in that kind of film, check out 'Len Lye' (his 'RainbowDance' is great), he did similar things (I think he used stamps and other things to 'paint' on film).

Here is a link:

Len Lye

You can also use black film and scratch on it. If you are skillful, you can scratch into the different laminate and create strange color effects.

Klaus

[Herb Montes]

The book "Experimental Animation" by Robert Russett and CeCile Starr has information on this method. As well as Kit Laybourne's book on animation (the title escapes me at the moment). A search on Amazon.com will locate them.

[moviemat]

Hi,

The best book I have found on this subject and many other DIY techniques is Recepies for Disaster by Helen Hill. It was made by asking filmmakers to produce a page each. you can still get it this is the place to start:

http://www.othercinema.com/otherzine/otherzine4/hh.html

moviemat

[MovieStuff]

Dr. Martins watercolors are about the most permanent dye I have ever used to paint on film. Works better on eastman stock than fuji polyester base. be careful with the Dr. Martins. I got some red on my finger tips once and it took weeks for it to come off. Very aggressive stuff.

Roger

[etimh]

The best book I have found on this subject and many other DIY techniques is Recepies for Disaster by Helen Hill. It was made by asking filmmakers to produce a page each. you can still get it this is the place to start:

http://www.othercinema.com/otherzine/otherzine4/hh.html

Yes, this book is crucial.

Moviemat's post just reminded me to check in at othercinema's main page--always interesting stuff going on with these folks:

http://www.othercinema.com/mainframe.html

Of particular interest, screening this weekend, is Jem Cohen's film Chain. Check out this review:

We're extremely pleased to present the Bay Area premiere of Jem Cohen's multiple award-winning Chain. Shot in 16mm over the better part of a decade, Cohen's 99-min. magnum opus interweaves a mesmerizing tapestry of eerie dystopian landscapes with existential episodes of human isolation and psychic inertia. This meditative, elliptical narrative serves to benefit the case against malls everywhere—in our instance, the campaign against Home De(s)pot here in San Francisco, which will receive a portion of the proceeds.

These guys not only hate walmart, but they're against Home Depot too! Now that's taking it a bit too far...

But, for the record, I'll take the little independent Tru-Value hardware store across the street over Home Depot any day. Let the wailing begin.

Tim